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- From: badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.newton.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
- Subject: Re: Users are selfish Was Re: crippled software
- Date: 8 Mar 96 18:48:02 GMT
- Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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- fuz@deltanet.com (Scott Ellsworth) writes:
-
- >Hmmm. Ever looked at just where the money came from to develop BSD Unix
- >originally, or Emacs, or X, or a number of other useful packages
- >available on Unix? Let me give you a hint - the US government, various
- >tuition payments, and the endowments of certain major universities. (And
- >other govenrmental bodies as well in other countries - I am merely only
- >familiar with early BSD and Mach history.)
-
- Perhaps the FSF and BSD were bad examples, because indeed corporate
- and government money was involved, but this is not the case for the
- vast amount of freeware available. Particularly of the smaller kind
- more akin to Newton software. Take for example Mahjongg and
- Backgammon. I am sure that the UNIX versions I play were not funded by
- any grants (believe me, if you could get government grants for writing
- games, I'd be the first in line), yet the authors *still* released
- them as freeware. Yet the Newton versions of these programs are
- shareware. The only reason for this that I can see is the difference
- in UNIX vs Newton culture.
-
- >One can argue that many of the students are working on these on
- >thier own time, but many of those students are working on thier
- >own time on 20k pieces of hardware.
-
- Irrelevant in this day and age. Anybody's $1500 PC can be used as a UNIX
- development system these days with the addition of Linux. Nobody needs a
- $20k workstation to write freeware.
-
- >I did not include Linux in the above list, as I had heard rumors that the
- >original author did it entirely on his own time on persoanl equipment, so
- >there is one tremendous counter example to the principle that freeware is
- >rarely free. I have not been able to confirm this.
-
- You are true in that Linus Torvalds did it on his own time and his own
- equipment, but this by no means unusual. This is quite common and is
- where the majority of freeware comes from. The argument that "without
- payment nobody would write programs" is simply wrong.
-